[identity profile] pomoranch.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] urb_a
Сейм Латвии принял поправки к закону о гражданстве, которые регламентируют возможность двойного гражданства и вводят понятие "государственная нация". Ее представителями признаны только латыши и ливы.

К негражданам относятся постоянные жители Латвии, которые родились в республике в советское время, но никто из предков которых не проживал здесь до 1940 года. Они лишены избирательного права, а также ограничены в выборе профессии. По данным на начало 2012 года, в республике статус неграждан имели более 312 тысяч человек (из 2,2 миллиона жителей), большинство из которых русскоязычные. Неграждане в настоящее время могут получить гражданство Латвии через натурализацию. Для этого им надо сдать экзамен по латышскому языку и истории, а также заплатить госпошлину.

http://rus.newsru.ua/world/10may2013/derwnazia.html

Date: 2013-05-10 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Стефан Бандера Сс (from livejournal.com)
не знаю как русских там обижают, но украинцев по национальсти имеющих статус неграждан там хватает.

Date: 2013-05-10 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djadja-c.livejournal.com
Долбоебов просравших свою империю будут обижать еще долго, пока за ум не возьмутся.

Date: 2013-05-10 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vpetrovi4.livejournal.com
Русские давно там уже весь бизнес под себя подмяли, а местные индейцы на них горбатятся

Date: 2013-05-10 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wangden.livejournal.com
Если натурализовавшийся русский может получить гражданство, то какой юридический смысл имеет понятие "государственная нация", которое, судя по этому тексту, определяется через этническое происхождение?

Date: 2013-05-10 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Чтобы отсечь дебилов, которые не могут\не хотят выучить язык страны, где они родились. То есть эти тушки будут получать пособие, но избирательным правом обладать не будут.

Date: 2013-05-10 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wangden.livejournal.com
А как насчёт русских, которые язык (и историю) выучили? Они считаются частью "государственной нации" или нет? И уравнены ли в правах с её представителями?

Date: 2013-05-10 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelmenko.livejournal.com
"государственная нация" означает, что представители этой нации получают гражданство автоматически.
Остальные при выполнении некоторых условий, что тут непонятного? ))

Date: 2013-05-10 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wangden.livejournal.com
А, ну тогда понятно.

Date: 2013-05-10 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valeriy1962.livejournal.com
рам чисто по чести сегрегация идёт, Камрад, поверь наСлово. владею инифой.

Date: 2013-05-10 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Если руссике сдают экзамен по языку, то сразу получают гражданство. Полно русских в органах власти в Латвии.

Но. Есть одно но. Им переделывают фамилии - добавляют букву "с" в конце фамилии. Например, был Кацапин, а потом становится Кацапинс.

Date: 2013-05-10 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wangden.livejournal.com
Ужас какой. А обрезание им не делают?

Date: 2013-05-10 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Только добавляют.

Date: 2013-05-10 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Стефан Бандера Сс (from livejournal.com)
украинцам тамошним тоже фамилии переделывают?

Date: 2013-05-10 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Если фамилия на -чин, -шин, то добвляется "с" в конце. Если на - шук, -чук, то добавляется "-рис". Еслифамилия на -ко, то так и остается.

Date: 2013-05-10 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Стефан Бандера Сс (from livejournal.com)
т.е. Фарион или Михальчишину надо было бы пройти натурализацию?

Date: 2013-05-10 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Разве они родились в Латвии и претендуют на латвийское гражданство?

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Date: 2013-05-10 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Стефан Бандера Сс (from livejournal.com)
латвийских украинцев?

Date: 2013-05-11 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olegpavlov.livejournal.com
нормальное национальное государство
заботится о своем народе и своей земле
на Руси примерно так же надо

Date: 2013-05-11 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
На Руси так и есть.

Date: 2013-05-11 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olegpavlov.livejournal.com
Руси-то нет, а вы говорите что так есть на Руси
а РФ вообще против русских

Date: 2013-05-11 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Русь как была, так и осталась. А вот Московии скоро придет пиздаускас.

Date: 2013-05-11 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olegpavlov.livejournal.com
аааааааа так вот вы о чём )
а чё вы свою Русь Украиной зовёте, а себя не русскими, а украинцами?

Date: 2013-05-11 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casper-xxx.livejournal.com
Мы - русины-украинцы.

Date: 2013-05-12 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olegpavlov.livejournal.com
всегда с теплотой относился к русинам и к их борьбе за свою землю
не знал что они ненавидят русских

и почему вы русины-украинцы, а не русины?

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